Timminco v. Sood part 3

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  1. Duncan Stewart says:

    Hi Mark,

    Having been a fund manager who has been short stocks and gone on the record with that position, there are two ways of being right.

    If a stock is at $30 and I say it is worthless — but don’t say why I think that — then as long as it goes almost to zero then I am right.

    But if I give a rationale and the reason I give turns out to be not proven — but the stock goes to zero for (possibly) other reasons — then although my financial gain is the same my research isn’t quite as vindicated.

    The reason I make this distinction is that Ravi didn’t just say TIM was going way down, he made comments that their “proprietary” Silicon purification process wasn’t what they claimed it to be, and that (it seemed to me) was the crux of his short argument.

    In the months following the Sood-vs-Timminco debate, the global solar industry (and especially those in the silicon supply chain) has more-or-less collapsed due to a slew of factors (economic crisis, falling solar subsidies, oversupply on a historic scale.) All kinds of companies have gone — and are continuing to go — bankrupt.

    To give Ravi his due, the sheer scale of Timminco’s operating losses and difficulties manufacturing and selling solar grade silicon make it look like most or all of Ravi’s arguments could well be true. But it is also possible that his arguments were not true, and Timminco is just one of many companies that spent like crazy to create facilities to sell upgraded silicon at $60/kg…and are in deep deep trouble when prices fell by 80% or more.

    Duncan

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