Chicken Little is alive and well

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  1. Brian Iler says:

    The Globe story in quesiton was reposeted AFTER this request was sent by a Bathurst Quay resident:

    To: websupport@globeandmail.ca
    Cc: core@lists.communityair.org
    Subject: [CommunityAIR] Reinstatement of Online G&M Article

    Web Support Team,

    Please reinstate the following link:

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/toronto/toronto-island-airport-body-denies-porter-ploy/article11365412/

    I read it after midnight last night, but the link has since been taken down. You made this information public in your online edition and it’s an important story. The Globe and Mail has long been one of Canada’s most respected newspapers. Are you going to be complicit in the death of objective journalism, or are you going to print stories the public needs to read them rather than removing them because you’re afraid of losing Porter’s advertising dollars?

    Sincerely,

  2. Brian Iler says:

    The community has yet to receive any credible information on boat incursions into the marine exclusion zone. Not in the screening report, nor subsequently. Not for the lack of requests.

    Bald media reports,and statements in your self-serving letters don’t cut it, Mark.

    If incursions were such a serious problem as to warrant this dumping, why was the sailing community not engaged in a campaign by the TPA for better compliance. That’d be far cheaper,and far less damaging to the aquatic environment! There has been no such campaign. Likely because it’s not a serious problem,and certainly manageable.

    Then the question remains, begging for a credible answer from the TPA: Why the dumping? The only conclusion remaining – to extend the runway.

    • Mark McQueen says:

      Thanks for stopping by, Mr. Iler,

      The improvements to the Harbour MEZ are part of what is clearly a multi-year effort by the TPA to improve safety in and around the airport. The TPA’s April 19, 2013 letter to Mayor Rob Ford outlines some of those steps. The 2009 request of NAVCAN to broaden the “Noise Sensitive Areas” over Toronto Islands is a different, but related example of the multi-year effort to mitigate the airport’s impact on the community, despite the fact that BBTCA aircraft movements have dropped 45% since 1961. As are the new noise barriers, and the 100% green electricity usage. And there wasn’t one commercial carrier violation of the 11pm curfew in 2012, as the TPA’s prior enforcement and $10,000 fines have sent a strong “zero tolerance” message.

      Not that you’ll satisfied until the airport is closed, mind you. The fact that 89% of Torontonians told Ipsos Reid that the BBTCA was “an asset” in their last survey tells me that the vast majority of residents don’t bring an agenda to each and every issue…and are fair minded when the facts are put before them.

      You want to close the airport, and are trying your best to achieve your goals. That’s your right as a citizen; but I’ll be on guard when you say things which aren’t true, accuse me of taking down newspaper articles, and use specious facts to make your case.

      MRM

  3. Wayne Lilley says:

    A few points of clarification, if I may, Mark.

    Your observation that “Airport critics claim that there are “never” incursions into the Harbour MEZ,” infers that that position amounts to deliberate falsification.
    In fact, at the meeting at the Radisson Hotel last spring to announce the MEZ filling project to harbour users, the TPA’s own Ken Lundy conceded that he only knew of one boater ever charged for violating the restricted zone. He thought at the time that case was under appeal.

    Lundy’s statement then seemed plausible. Toronto Harbour sailors are certainly familiar with buoyed area and $10k fine for violations. As well, boaters have to pass the TPA’s test to so they can pay the TPA $25 per season to sail in their harbour.

    Still, while reasonable, Lundy’s response in 2012 didn’t lend credibility to one the TPA’s rationales for dumping fill in the MEZ. Why take (expensive) action to prevent something that’s all but non-existent? Was Lundy wrong? Lying? Misinformed? Did cost-saving from dumping in the MEZ trump the loss of harbour area?

    Whatever the case, the new statistics of violations of the MEZ that the TPA is now putting forth (albeit second-hand) don’t dazzle with credibility, either. First, “as reported in the media,” doesn’t necessarily make a fact true, especially since the TPA initiated the report.

    Second, the figure seems vague. Are the “approximately” 200 incursions over the last five years a guess? If each violator were fined the full $10,000, that’s $2 million in revenue. Surely the police have accurate records somewhere to accounting for that much money.

    Finally, the relatively deep-draft fire-boat was able to tow the drifting Oriole out of the MEZ because it could get close to it. Had the MEZ already been filled to a foot below the water, the Oriole may well have floated far enough into the zone to run firmly aground. Had that been the case, it would have posed a hazard to aircraft for far longer than it did.

    WL

    • Mark McQueen says:

      Thanks for stopping by Wayne

      You’ll have to ask the Marine Unit about the disconnect between the number of annual incursions they’ve identified and the number of fines that Ken Lundy was aware of. I guess they don’t fine very many of the boaters for these incursions. The TPA sets the harbour rules, but its TPS that enforce them.

      As for the Oriole, it also has a deep draft and I’m told would never have got near the airport if the Harbour MEZ upgrade was in place at the time. Just as you couldn’t run it up against the airport wall inside the Western MEZ due to the sandbar that’s there.

      Same concept. If you’ve got professional expertise in this area and some feasible ideas to improve safety in the Harbour or at the Airport, please send them to the TPA Harbour Master and Head of Security. He’ll be all ears. Thanks.

      MRM

  4. Stephen van Egmond says:

    Mark,

    I am a member of the National Yacht Cub across the gap, and also happen to publish their newsletter. Been following your blog for a while for investment topics.

    Two things:

    1. Most visitors to the MEZ are clueless helmsmen, not boats broken loose. Why it’s preferable to have a boat aground and stuck rather than quickly through is beyond me. That ship has sailed, though.

    2. We have perfectly reasonable questions about the MEZ extent (not contents) that none of the 3 parties will answer; your communications staff prioritize jousting with activists, politicians, and media rather than talking to neighbors. Please fix. The issue is coming up at a board meeting soon, and some facts would be welcome.

    • Mark McQueen says:

      Thanks for stopping by Stephen

      Happy to take whatever advice you have to provide.

      From my perspective, the TPA and BBTCA have regular community meetings re airport and tunnel construction. If more fora are required, we are all ears. On the “good neighbour” front, as your Club’s lawyer and former Commodore will advise, the TPA moved heaven and earth to resolve your issue with the Provincially-owned dockwall that collapsed a few years ago. We went so far as to contribute hundreds of thousands of dollars to rebuild costs so as to help the other levels of government get to “yes”. I attended the settlement meetings personally to ensure the TPA went above and beyond….

      There may be other ideas to help improve the harbour’s utility, and to make life better for your members and other boaters. It sure isn’t for lack of interest or desire. Just as we were first to come to the aid of the harbour’s sport fishermen last summer. Please call anytime.

      MRM

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